[ProgSoc] DoS (was: Support the BPA Petition)

[vik <vik@nospam.progsoc.uts.edu.au>]

> Speaking of abuse, my sinister plan is to somehow get together a
> critical mass of o@nospam.h users, and through judicious amounts of
> downloading slowly drive up the "rolling average" download limit to
> some insane amount... ideas welcome ;-)

This links in to something I was about to ask about anyway. A melbourne
community ISP, greenet <http://www.green.net.au> has been under a DoS
attack. I'm involved with a couple of community network providers, and
this has got us thinking - it's not so much the Denial of service that
is the problem in this case, its that a huge amount of data is being
transmitted to the server, and guess who has to pay for it? So
irrelevant of how good the server setup is, if a DoS is underway, the
only way to stop the bandwidth bill from skyrocketting is to try to get
the upstream provider to stop the attack.

So firstly, regarding the Optus thingy  - find all the optus users u
can, and DoS them. 

Secondly, what do ppl think about DoS counter-attacks? Find who is
attacking u, then attack them right back. build up a network of
`defensive' hosts who are pissed of at being DoS'ed and when any one of
the pact gets attacked, all start attacking the attacker. Yes, violence
begets violence I know, but it might be fun for a little while. 

Oh - are the any other ideas as to how to stop packets from a DoS attack
from getting to ur network?

chow

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