Re: [ProgSoc] bent over and ...

[Telford Tendys <telford@nospam.progsoc.uts.edu.au>]

On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 06:43:41PM +1000, Dr. Love wrote:
> um, i recently sold my PSDA (that's that OO programming in Eiffel
> subject) partnership for the princely sum of $25. That is to say, that we
> are allowed to do the assignment in pairs, and hence being naturally
> pretty good at programming (atleast as first years are concerned) i has a
> number of people wishing to be my partner, thus it was sold.

That's very enterprising, given that Comp Sci has basically become
business with keyboards (or IT as it now call itself) I would have thought
you deserve extra marks for sniffing out a profit.

> I did the code, and my partner did all the krappy class diagrams, and the
> stuff that i felt was truly beneath my dignity etc. </smartarse>

Yup, that's how groupwork usually works but it isn't how the ``supposed''
ideal group works. You are ``supposed'' to all talk to one another and
reach consensus and work together at all times. The mere fact that this
never happens and is pretty much impossible should not stand in your way.

> I then asked you each to report various details about your solution,
> details that you should have known had you designed and coded the system
> together. On the basis of this confirming evidence, I have concluded that
> Ms. Grunstein knew very little about the system, and Mr. Love (wish he'd
> called me doctor.. *sigh* ohwell) knew it extremely well.

Here is the crux of the problem, you must at least make sure that everyone
in the group is forced to make themselves familiar with everything in the
assignment, even the bits that they didn't do. If you get a partner who is
incapable of that then don't buy that partner (or sell to that partner).

> um mm.. so yeah, all advice/encouragement etc., would be appreciated.

Encouragement... well anyone in IT can tell you that making money is what
really matters and going to university is just a place to hang for a while,
find your self, meet a few friends before putting your head down and making
lots of money. Anyone who thinks differently might consider becoming an
Engineer (if they can handle the maths) or a Nurse (if they cannot) but they
certainly should not be hanging around in IT. Appeal the marks by all means
but don't feel too bad if you have to repeat the subject -- shit happens.
Maybe write a letter to Vertigo, they always seem to brag about sticking
up for the oppressed, and it doesn't take much reading to realise they are
desperate for content.

> as for the brick, how about "robert rist" used with a number of
> expletives.

Now that would be rude which is something that I cannot stand for.

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