RE: Forks Tangent (was RE: [ProgSoc] jpg file)

[Christian Kent <ckent@nospam.socs.uts.edu.au>]

On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Jedd wrote:

>  ] > I don't see how striping the signature would be of any use myself.
>  ] <shrug>  There may be times when you want an unadulterated text file.
>  ] Perhaps if you have HTML which needs to look the way it was intended.
>  Maybe I've missed the point of HTML (I didn't get to go listen to Bill's
>  talk today), but isn't the idea that it's up to the reader how HTML looks,

Yeah yeah.  I saw this one coming as I wrote "the way it was intended".
(This is the second time today ... maybe I should give up law).  By
"intended", I meant intended to render as HTML, not intended to be WYSIWYG
on the author's screen.  You can intend HTML to behave a certain way on
everybody's browser, not to the extent that it will look the =same=, but
at least -- and this is my point -- so that it won't be blemished by a big
fat PGP signature and tags.

>  not the author?  Alternatively - isn't that why there's those 'best viewed with a
>  computer and browser' graphics?  Not that I'm partisan about this topic.  :)

I couldn't give a fig, and I'll just make my web page fit whatever HTML I
can remember off the top of my head.  Though I'll need to use Javascript
and Quicktime to do the fancy stuff -- still that's better than using
plugins and RealMedia in my books.  I might even put a "Not Too Shabby
under Lynx" (or whatever it is) button on one of the relevant pages.

> 
>  Anyways . . I'm still confused about the whole method of striping a file.
>  I can stripe hard disks.  And I striped my car once, against the side of
>  a Jaguar, but the owner was really nice about it, which was only fair, you
>  see, since it was his fault.  Honest it was.

Weren't we talking about streaming?  Let's start a streaming vs sockets
debate then, just to confuse matters even more.

> 
>  Can someone explain what a file would actually look like, that was
>  thusly striped?  Any info on why (not how) MS decided to implement
>  something similar under NT would be interesting, too.

And let's talk about how NTFS is getting an overhaul, already in its short
life.  The wonders of microsecond timestamping and transaction logs.  Did
someone say NTFS is slower than HPFS as it is?

> 
>  Maybe I'm missing something - but it seems to me that if you want
>  two or more bits of disparate data - you stick 'em in separate files,
>  and keep them near each other.

Yup.  I still can't figure out why they don't just build MacBinary
recognition into MacOS itself and its Finder so that it doesn't need to
worry about whether the file's in one piece or not.  That way the Mac
would become a much better internet citizen.  At least with the next
version they're taking one step and automating the proprietory (hidden)
filetypes and creator codes to cooperate with the 3-4 letter extension of 
any file, DOS/Unix-style.  Makes sense since their next OS is a Unix 
anyway.


CK.

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