Re: Eligibility for nomination to ProgSoc Executive Committee

Sammy Yousef (syousef@nospam.socs.uts.edu.au)
Sat, 05 Apr 1997 02:40:44 +1000

>> Therefore, we do not have time to introduce the change by way of a
>> constitutional amendment. (Read the announcement carefully, we are not
>> at this point in time amending the constitution.)
>
>You do not have time because you have left it far too late, how can
>these amendments be viewed by the general membership as being anything
>other than an attempt to maintain power?
>
>You say the excutive has the power to override the constitution at times,
>well why didn't u hold an SGM last week to decide this matter. It would
>be far more democratic to vote on constutional amendments, do u really
>expect the general membership to let the excutive re-write the constution
>at will?

Considering you guys forced the situation, with this surprise attack, I
think this is more than a little unkind. You didn't give them warning or
time to think. If you haven't already grasped I for one am opposed to
action without thought and consideration. Something it seems you would see
as a valid approach to most situations.

If you'd given warning of your takeover, maybe they'd have had more time.
Anyway is it 21 days between the initial attempt at the AGM and the one now
scheduled?

>> Agreed. We may yet see 6 month terms.
>In politics its generally the longer the term, the greater the stabilty.

Not true. If that were the case, people would get their offices for life.
In fact very long terms can encourage corruption and complacency. One
reason I'm a little worried about 2 year terms. Someone could get in and
sit on their backside for 2 years.

>If the terms r reduced to 6months, how will this effect the stability of
>progsoc?

It's not the reduction of the term that's stabilizing, it's the fact that
you'll have overlapping terms and the exec will never change "all in one
go". The reduction of the term is a good thing for reasons detailed in my
last paragraph, and my last email on this list directed at Roland.

Do you really not understand this or are you being difficult? I don't mean
to be abrasive, but you are asking a question that has, to my knowledge
been dealt with on this list, and presenting it in such a way as to make it
sound like the exec is dealing with it unreasonably and trying to grab
power. Either you're not reading the whole discussion and jumping the gun
in answering, or you are "slinging mud" again, or you're reading things and
failing to understand them. I'd like to know which combination of these is
true.

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