Re: AGM events

James Bathe (jebathe@nospam.progsoc.uts.edu.au)
Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:55:30 +1100 (EST)


On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, The Fiend wrote:

> What's this bullshit of a takeover!?!

Guess it depends which side u ask.

> What kind of idiot would actually vote for someone to takeover progsoc?!?
> I usually prefer to stay ignorant of progsoc politics, but I can't imagine
> anyone else running progsoc. From my point of view, they've being doing
> more than a decent job at it.

That's a fair response considering your stated ignorance.

> What's the point of having a MUD orient society anyway??? Although I do
> like the idea since I used to run a MUD too, but IT IS NOT EVERYTHING!!!
> For those who think it is GET A LIFE!!! If people want a club for a
> specific purpose maybe they should just start their own club rather than
> taking one that people have worked so hard on.

The so called mud society is something the 'progsoc' people made up
(the 'progsoc' people r the 19-24 or so people who claim to repesent
all progsoc members (rather than just there little social group) and
have been running progsoc for a while now).

> I like progsoc the way it is now, so HANDS OFF!!!

You like ftoomsh as it is now...their is a difference between the
progsoc executive and the ftoomsh admin (some of the pervious e-mails
from the 'progsoc' people seem to indicate that they either don't know
this, or r conviently forgetting).

As far as i understood it, the fuss is over who controls progsoc..not
who is currently maintaing ftoomsh. As perious e-mails have stated
the admin have offered their services for the good of the scoiety,
not for the good of the excutive. So if the excutive was changed
would the present admin and anyoneelse who wanted to help run ftoomsh
suddenly withdraw their services? If so then they don't have the
interests of progsoc at heart.

We all know the admin work hard to maintain ftoomsh....what do the
excutive work hard to do? Above and beyond the basic paper work of
running any society and the bi-annual production of a mostly
photocopied TFM.

Most e-mails so far stating the case of the existing excutive r
mearly attempting to smear the reputation of their oppostion.
Mud sticks it is true, and as such it is a valid political
tactic (and so is branch stacking).

What does the current excutive offer?

Is it mearly a case of 'better the devil you know' and anything
but status quo is evil?

Chi has stated his policies, made his promises. What does the
excutive offer to counter this...apart from insults and
accusations?

It seems to me that the 'progsoc' people belive that they
have some sort of god given right to rule progsoc, that
they have done such an outstanding job and perform so
flawlessly that they can not lose.

A few questions to finish:

Can anyone tell me what the current executive offers?
(apart from the obvious)

What other companies r active donaters to progsoc
(would Sun really cut links with progsoc if the
excutive changed...or would it require the 'progsoc'
people telling Sun that they r not welcome?)

James Bathe