Re: ftoomsh?

Cam Dorrington (cam@nospam.progsoc.uts.edu.au)
Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:10:34 +1000 (EST)

On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Peter Meric wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Cam Dorrington wrote:
>
> > >That's nowhere good enough is it?
> > Well maybe you dont think it is good enough, but for $10 i think it is
> > pretty damn good to get what progsoc offers. If you arent satisfied you
> > are getting your moneys worth then why pay it.
>
> I think this is totally the wrong attitude to be taking. The "What the
> hell were you expecting for $10?" attitude is just plain wrong. If there
> is a shortage of funds, then fair enough. But there isn't, is there? I think
> the approach should be more like "the disks are dying, and the admins can't
> be in at uni all the time to fix the machine, but we'll do our best". There,
> that's much better. I don't believe the membership money is there solely to
> run the machine.

You are right of course, I didnt say it in the way in which i should have,
However, I for one am sick of people winging about ftoomsh when something
happens instead of asking someone what is happening. It is allmost as bad
as the people that say oh dear, my account is locked, please unlock it
immediately and justify to me why you have inconvenienced me in this way.

A mail to progsoc saying hey guys what is going on lately would be
appreciated much more than one saying nothing works anymore and it just
isnt good enough.

> > >Speaking of hardware backup, what is a machine doing fully devoted to
> > >talkers?
>
> Okay, let's stop being pedantic. He said "fully" and it's OBVIOUS that
> he doesn't mean that ALL the machine is doing is hosting talkers.
>
> Well, I don't care if one of the machines is devoted to such activities
> (plus MUD's, MOO's and IRC)--does the Progsoc Executive wish to keep
> its members informed about decisions it makes on such topics?
>
> While on the topic of being an (un)informed member, I really feel as if
> the Executive keeps its members in the dark. Maybe there can be another
> list set up to which decisions can be posted. It seems as if the only
> way we (members) get to hear about decisions is if someone has a complaint
> to make about it.

Another forum for this sort of thing is a good idea, and I believe that
one is being set up. In terms of being kept in the dark, noone ever seems
to ask, they just complain, and hardly anyone ever turns up to any of the
meetings that we have. All this just makes me think sometimes that noone
could give a shit what is happening as long as their web page works and
they can read their mail.

Cam.