Re: PPP

Stephen Boyd Gowing (sbg@nospam.fox-in.socs.uts.EDU.AU)
Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:37:54 +1000

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994 raz@nospam.number5.apana.org.au wrote:

> I note that you didn't copy to the list - feel free if you wish.

I will.

> > > Shouldn't be too hard to arrange (looks hopefully at Mister Pointyhead for
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This refers to Chris Keane BTW - some time ago his .sig said "that's
> MISTER Pointyhead to you!" Now it says "chief pointyhead" or something...

I know. But I'm in a better position to answer the question -- and
anyway, Chris is in the States at the moment.

> > > primary nudging as to whether there is some hideous reason why not...).
> > > There may be an organisational consideration though... SBG: is ftoomsh
> > > (likely to become) IP connected at any point? If so, what happens when
> > > students are able to route IP from their loungerooms? Does ITD object?
> > > Does SOCS object?
> >
> > ftoomsh *IS* IP connected, in fact, that's the only sort of
> > connectivity/accessability it's ever likely to have. Or have I missed
> > the point of your question?
>
> Ah, that was exactly my question. Just before posting I did an nslookup
> and got no response - must have mistyped...

Right. Okay.

> > I've been avoiding answering the PPP question 'cause I'm not sure just
> > how feasible it is without any modems attached.. I expect it'd work fine
>
> Oh - not feasible at all! PPP would be useful (only) over modem lines.
> Concievably one could come in to somewhere through a modem (8 data, no
> parity, 1 stop) and rlogin to ftoomsh that attempt a PPP attach... most
> kernels would barf at such a thing though...

Groovy.

> > Knowing what you now know, how does this change your above paragraph?
>
> It changes it back to "Hmm, I wonder how we can get some phone lines..."
> and leaves the last two questions unanswered - do you know: is there a SOCS
> policy on students routing IP from their own machines directly only the UTS
> net? An ITD policy?

[ Puts on SoCS Admin hat ]

According to Jenny Edwards, we (the School) cannot gets lines from
Telecom. She checked. The PABX is in the process of being upgraded
(that is, the upgrade of the university PABX is being discussed in higher
up university management type meetings), right now they are completely
out of lines.

SoCS doesn't have a policy but I'm sure we could put one together when we
needed to -- it'd be something along the lines of, we'll let you if we
aren't told not to but if something bad happens we'll shut you down. ITD
probably don't have a policy either but I expect if you asked they
wouldn't let you.

sbg